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13 Kasım 2013 Çarşamba

TLC Breaking The Faith - Biographies of the Cast

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MARTHA, 18 years old
Martha struggles with the desire to be accepted by the church and her family, but longs to start a new life where major life choices—like whom or whether to marry —aren’'t decided for her. She fantasizes about going to college, and possibly becoming a detective.

ANGIE, 21 years old
Outspoken and frustrated by seeing families torn apart within the FLDS community, she watches as her father and two brothers leave the FLDS. She's eager to start a new chapter of her life – including having control over who and when she is able to date.

LINDA, 22 years old
A member of one of the most connected families in the community – her step father is close to church leader Warren Jeffs, Linda has been well cared for and highly protected. However, she's been dreaming of leaving the FLDS to join her father and eight siblings who have already left. In addition, she would like to pursue dance and choreography.

VAL, 20 years old
Considered to be a "struggling" member of the community, Val has been disciplined for acting out before, and has been moved around the community to try and keep her under control. Her brother and father have been kicked out of the FLDS, and her strong will is setting her on a path to follow them.

To see the bios of the other 4 cast members, Connie, Jake, Zack and Matt, please follow the link in red:


We are more than interested in this show. good or bad, it will be interesting to see. If it does sensationalize like Breaking Amish, we will be the ones to expose it for sure! I am hoping for the best since Sam Brower was involved. Not all productions are the same...only time will tell!
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10 Kasım 2013 Pazar

TLC - Breaking The Faith

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From TLC - 

I've been taught my whole life that I would go to hell if I left, so I really do believe it...

BREAKING THE FAITH shares the story of eight young men and women who are trying to build a new life outside of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (known as the FLDS) – either by choice, or by force. For the young men known as “lost boys”, these cast-outs are looking for a fresh start after being kicked out of their homes. Meanwhile, the women are escaping the controlling ways of their faith – including arranged marriage and a life of complete submission, known as "keeping sweet" – hoping for a better life on the outside. Leaving a world where every decision was made for them, they are now dealing with the challenges of living in a reality where they are now responsible for every move they make. And, for this group, being faced with making life-altering choices in their effort to win their freedom comes with the fear that consequences for leaving the compound will come without warning.
We will be Watching Nov 24th


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5 Kasım 2013 Salı

Tweet Tweet Sister Wives

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We haven't done tweets for awhile, and here is a ton of them! Thanks to Funky Town for gathering them for us!! Tomorrow I am having some minor surgery so hope to be back on later tomorrow or Thurs. Will be interesting to see what you think of all these - Some really cute pictures. Happy Reading!
I wonder what???


Beautiful photo of homecoming (maybe?) goes with this tweet. It's Instagram so I think you'll have to download it?












Several tweets follow Meri's about the apron, but she doesn't bother to answer anyone:





Soon? Shouldn't it have been up there in maybe August or September?












It's MY design - haha!

Oh the irony that Mary retweeted this:


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30 Ekim 2013 Çarşamba

Polygamy's Extreme dual standard part one with Kristyn Decker

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Rebecca Kimbel talks with Kristyn Decker about the extreme dual standards in polygamy, where men live a life style every day that is increasingly better than that of their wives, where women are held responsible for that which they have no control over and where a wife's value is based on her willingness to martyr her emotions, desires and dreams for acceptance in eternity and survival in everyday life.


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27 Ekim 2013 Pazar

My Sisterwife’s Jewelry at The Silverton Hotel - Sister Wives

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The Brown family started the family owned and operated business in June 2012 and it was created from hearts full of love. My Sisterwife's Closet has a line of fine jewelry and a Budget Boutique that are all original designs. The Silverton hotel gift shop has a unique display of various pieces for sale.

"Sister Wives" has a large fan base in Las Vegas, so when the word got out that they would be appearing at the Silverton, the fans came early and lined up to meet and greet the Brown family. read the rest of the story here: Las Vegas Informer 

To see our exclusive pictures and story here. 
Sisterwife's Jewelry at Guilt!




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8 Ekim 2013 Salı

Rockdale Ranch and the Foster Family

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Solar panels and cliff dwellers

Every report about the Foster family's Rockdale Ranch, near Moab, Utah, starts with photographs. The architecture is stunning. Brightly colored house fronts seem precariously tacked on to the enormous sandstone rock. Beyond the facades are large internal rooms carved into the sandstone. Ceilings, walls and floors reveal the rock they were cut from. 
The views from these homes are extraordinary: scrub and dirt spread out forever under the enormous Utah sky.

The ranch sits on 82 acres of state school trust land that is leased from the government at a cost of about $6400 per year.

Bob Foster

Bob Foster was a polygamous fundamentalist Mormon. He was excommunicated from the LDS Church in 1972 and convicted for bigamy in 1974, for which he served a prison term of 20 days. This experience motivated him to provide a place of safety where his family might be free of persecution.

Foster was also convinced that the end of the world was imminent. He started the ranch in 1979 with a 50 year lease. He did not expect that the government would last long enough to renew. He expected society to crumble amid disasters and wars. Foster taught that the future struggle and instability would not be the end of the world, but the movement of the world into a new and different epoch. "It isn't that it is coming to the end of the world, it is coming to the beginning of a different one," he said, adding that "I'm not the only one who sees we're headed for  brick wall."

Rockdale Ranch is the outworking of those two main elements of Bob Foster's beliefs. They also influenced his son, Enoch, who took over as leader after Bob passed away in 2008.

Foster's Family

Bob Foster's first wife divorced him. I haven't found any details about her, for example, how long they were married, why she left, how many children they had and what became of them. I don't know if he supported them after the divorce. This is important because of Foster's involvement in promoting plural marriage among LDS. He was considered an intellectual, who had taught at Seminary before his excommunication. He was closely affiliated with Anne Wilder, who is a pro polygamy activist in Salt Lake City.

According to the Denver Post article, Bob Foster had three wives, 38 children and 82 grandchildren. Of these, one wife, 6 children and an undetermined number of grandchildren lived in the community.

“When it comes to plural marriage, Foster admits he is considered a radical.
He urged his wives to find careers … Second wife Susan went to Durango to work in accounting. Fourth wife Carla went to medical school and is now a physician near Salt Lake City. Third wife Karen opted to stay at the rock, where she raises Yorkshire terriers, tends an organic garden and runs a trash transfer station several days a week in La Sal.
"You don't control peoples' lives," Foster emphasizes. "That is wicked. You set them free."
Susan and Carla spend time at Rockland. Each of them has a cavern blasted into the rock so that homes can be built for them if they should decide to live here full-time again.

Most of Foster's children have lived off the rock for periods with their mothers. Some want nothing to do with Rockland. But some are on board with their father's vision.”

Foster's son, Enoch, lives at the Ranch with his 2 wives and many children.

One of Foster's daughters, Melinda Morrison, claimed that only 6 of her siblings (including her) had chosen to live polygamy. 
In 2008, Melinda conceded that her sister wife had moved to Park City. Melinda said, “We had different ways of doing things.”
In 2012, responding to an article in The Atlantic, Melinda claimed to be living in a plural marriage at the ranch. She had some interesting comments about it.

“Just like all of our women do not choose this lifestyle. Not all of the Men do either.  I am one of six out of thirty eight siblings that Chose, Yes chose! this life style.    In fact I stunned my husband when I told him that I wanted to make the choice.   It is a choice that I continue to make everyday.   My children also have a choice.  I would never push it on my children.  I do not even want them to choose it unless it is absolutely what they want in their inner most heart.  We woman have a choice.  It is not pushed on us by powerful men.  In fact the Men here are some of the most descent (sic) humble and kind hearted  you could ever meet.  Which is why several woman are willing to share them.  They would rather have part of  very good Man than all of a  partly good.” (italics mine).
On the subject of government assistance, Melinda wrote:

“For your information we are very much against government assistance and live off the sweat of our own labors.  Be careful next time you make snap judgement about people  you don't know.”
                   
Another of Foster's daughters, Anna Knecht, lives at Rockdale and is monogamous.

Other Residents

In 2006, five families moved to the rock from Colorado City. There were claims that they had been kicked out of Colorado City because the older men wanted the young girls for themselves. The Fosters insist Rockdale is not at all related to the FLDS. It isn't a polygamous community. It's not even a Mormon community. Residents are Mormon, Baptist, FLDS and 'hybrids'.

One of Enoch's wives, Lilian, said anyone who wants to live at Rockland Ranch has to pass a six-month "trial period" where they are expected to spend time in the community and ingratiate themselves with their future neighbours before they can buy a home.

Self sufficiency

Foster raised his family to be self sufficient. Children at the Ranch work alongside their parents in cultivating their own food. They have an orchard, vegetable gardens, cows and chickens. They have a large water storage reservoir on the rock. They have solar panels and a generator. They minimise household utility costs as the rock moderates indoor temperatures. In winter, they use small wood burning stoves to keep their homes warm. Soot from these is discolouring the rock above the chimneys.

Rockdale Ranch is isolated, but the residents embrace modern technology. They have solar power and generators. They have the internet.

We get the impression that Rockdale Ranch is not as forbidding as YFZ Ranch or Hilldale. There are no prairie dresses or swarms of children. There is no temple either (although they have a baptismal font). People seem free to come and go as they please. We have seen that Foster's wives were able to live outside the community. Foster welcomed tourists to his place, until 9/11 happened and the tourists stopped coming. 

None of them admit to being on welfare or food stamps. There is no evidence of bankruptcies or bleeding the beast with this group (although, there is a question mark over Foster's first wife).

Foster described himself as an independent fundamentalist. Before embracing plural marriage, he was a seminary teacher in Salt Lake. Two of his wives had been theology students of his. He was known as a colourful character, popular enough with residents of nearby towns and always willing to discuss religion. Locals appreciated the group's hard working reputation and their efforts to be self sufficient.

Bob Foster and his son speak to reporters from time to time. They have allowed photographers on their property. They portray themselves as progressive. Their main concern with publicity is an unwillingness to be labelled doomsday preppers because that carries connotations of rednecks in the backwoods who are ridiculed by society at large.

Scratch the surface, however, and you discover signs that Foster wasn't as radical as he claimed to be regarding polygamy.

Bob Foster was a very good friend of Anne Wilde, a pro-polygamy author, associated with Principal Voices. Wilde knew Foster for 35 years or so. She even owned one of the houses at Rockdale for a while. She said he is the only person she knew who had a grand vision and then accomplished it.

In a post on the website4thefamily.us - Anne wilde reported, "I greatly admire him for his desire to provide an opportunity to raise their children in an atmorsphere where they learn to garden, raise animals, get water and power, repair machinery and build homes along with their academic schooling and religious training." "It's not a sex party..He is a friend to a lot of people and welcomes them down there," Wilde said.

Wilde and Foster appear in a book called Polygamy's Rape of Rachael Strong: Protected Environment for Predators by John R. Llewellyn, published in 2006. According to Llewellyn, Wilde, her husband Ogden Kraut and Foster actively promoted plural marriage among LDS and were seen as intellectuals, able to explain why polygamy should be practiced (even though it's illegal). This disturbing anecdote appears in Llewellyn's book:

One of their proteges was already married and his wife was pregnant with their 6th child. The husband had been attending meetings with Foster and Wilde. As a result, he decided to live plural marriage and had been 'courting' a single mother behind his wife's back. When the single mother asked if his wife was in agreement, he lied and said she was. A phone call from the potential second wife to the first wife revealed the truth. The husband insisted that the theologians who had been teaching him were right. The wife thought she needed to meet these intellectuals for herself.

She wanted to save her marriage. The wife asked Wilde and Foster for help. They ordered her to submit to her husband's wish and agree to plural marriage. They used the Law of Sarah, from Joseph Smith's Book of Abraham. That 'law' said that Sarah 'had the privilege of giving consent but not dissent” - and that the poor woman's husband had the right to 'sacrifice her' if she didn't agree to plural marriage. (Llewellin pp 90 – 93). That meant that he could abandon his wife and her children and refuse to provide for them if she didn't agree with having sister wives.

So, although Bob Foster portrayed himself as fairly relaxed by not (publicly) insisting that everyone live plural marriage, he was enough of a fundamentalist to enforce the idea that women who don't agree with it can be abandoned. Although he taught his own family to provide for themselves, he endorsed other men's decisions to leave their wives and children with nothing if they refused to agree to polygamy. And there remains the mystery of his first wife, who divorced him. Did he follow his own advice and abandon her?

There are links between groups of polygamists. Even independent fundamentalist Mormon polygamists justify their beliefs and behaviour using the same texts, including the Bible, the Book of Mormon and Doctrine and Covenants. They seem quite heartless in their treatment of women who don't agree with them.


So when we see the Foster family describe the Ranch as " ...simply a place where we strive to respect each other's differences," we might wonder exactly what that means when a monogamous woman refuses to follow her husband into polygamy. Cutting her off without a penny is hardly respectful, especially if she is left to raise your children without support.
By Sister Katie


Sources: http://www.4thefamily.us/Bob_foster  http://www.flickr.com/photos/12150532@N04/7035823265/in/photostream/ 
 (http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/11/polygamists-in-the-rock/100406/)
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5 Ekim 2013 Cumartesi

Silly Saturday! Sister Wives Commitment Ceremony

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It's Saturday again already! In addition to our free discussion, here's a good place to help the Browns plan their commitment ceremony. 
We've already had a post on what should be on a mission statement -
http://sisterwivesblog.blogspot.com/2013/03/brown-family-mission-statement.html

Now let us know what you think the Brown's should have going on during their commitment ceremony. And yes, we will be counting to see how many times they say this before actually doing it!

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26 Eylül 2013 Perşembe

Book Review: The Witness Wore Red: The 19th Wife Who Brought Polygamous Cult Leaders to Justice

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***Quick Note - Review: Tell all is open below to discuss all things "Sister Wives" and the post is open to discuss the new shows, thank you.
                                              **This summary contains spoilers**         



Rebecca Musser was born into the FLDS, first led by Rulon Jeffs and then ultimately run by Warren Jeffs. Rebecca was born to a second wife. Rebecca was taught at a very early age that life was full of sacrifices. This line from the book sums it all up “We had to endure life, we had to suffer pain and sacrifice; eternity was all that mattered”. In fact, they were taught that if you knew ‘the truth’ of the religion (FLDS) and then left, you were an apostate, destined to burn in eternal darkness. Starting at the very youngest age, she was taught that outsiders (“Gentiles”) were evil and never to be trusted. Gentile doctors were not to be trusted, nor were the police or government. They were taught that Gentiles wanted to take children from their parents and throw their fathers in jail. They were frequently reminded of the Short Creek raid where families were separated, sometimes never to see each other again.

Rebecca’s childhood was heartbreaking. Her father’s first wife, Irene, was cruel and mean to both Rebecca’s mom and Rebecca’s mom’s children. Frequent beatings took place, sometimes to the point of blood and broken bones. Rebecca’s father deferred to Irene and looked the other way when Rebecca’s siblings or her mom were abused. Rebecca attended the Alta Academy, founded by Rulon Jeffs. The principal of the school was Warren Jeffs. Rebecca found that she had skills at playing the violin and playing that music was a refuge to her from her disturbing home life. At the Alta Academy, the children were frequently lectured by Warren Jeffs to obey and keep sweet, never be displeasing. Warren taught them that polygamists were persecuted just as the Jews were by the Nazis. Rebecca assisted with the school and helped put musicals together.

Shortly after she turned 18, Rebecca was told she would be marrying the prophet, Rulon Jeffs. She would be the 19th wife of the 85 year old prophet. Rebecca was devastated. After her wedding, she learned that being Rulon’s wife meant she had to be ‘on duty’ for 24 hour shifts, helping him to use the bathroom and undress. Unfortunately, despite his relative frailty, Rulon still expected his wives to ‘satisfy’ him and perform sexual acts with him. Due to his age and inability to sexually function adequately (although they had to try) most of the newer wives did not get pregnant with Rulon’s children. Less than a week after their marriage, Rulon announced that he was marrying two more young wives. Despite not loving her husband or being attracted to him, Rebecca was nonetheless devastated that her new husband didn’t find her to be ‘enough’ and this led to jealousy and feelings of inadequacy. There were 46 wives after Rebecca for Rulon Jeffs. Being married to a prophet was considered to be an honor for a girl and her family so to complain would be displeasing and blasphemous.

Rebecca was now fully immersed in being part of the Jeffs’s family. Warren was Rulon’s right hand man and was involved in the daily life of Rulon and all of his wives. When Rulon asked Rebecca to be ‘on duty’ a little sooner than she felt was reasonable, she said “no”. Warren then called her into his office where he told her that she could never again tell her husband ‘no’. If she were to say no again, she would be destroyed in the flesh. Rebecca did the best she could to stay busy with activities that would be acceptable to Rulon, thus not having to be on duty as often. Rebecca threw herself into the teaching and music that she enjoyed.

A few years after they married, Rulon had a stroke. Rulon had claimed to his followers that he was going to live forever, he was their last prophet and would be there personally when Christ came back to Earth. He simply could not die, that would be a devastating blow to all the people of their faith. Therefore, the people were kept in the dark about the true extent of Rulon’s health. The wives were even more restricted to their activities as they had to be on site, fasting and praying. When Rulon had a rough night, Warren would tell the wives that they had not been faithful enough or praying enough. Warren started determining who could see Rulon and stopped allowing Rulon’s close contacts to see him anymore. Rulon hung in for quite a long time in his feeble condition but Warren started running most of the day to day operations of the FLDS. When the world didn’t end on December 31, 1999 as they were told would happen, Warren said it was because the followers were too wicked to be brought up and God was giving them more time. This become a constant event, doomsday dates were picked and then when they didn’t happen, Warren would say they were too wicked and it was their fault.

As Rulon continued deteriorating, Warren went on a marriage spree, performing hundreds of marriages and the girls were getting younger and younger. Warren told girls who were 12 that since Mary, mother of Jesus, got pregnant at the age of 12, then it should be considered an honor to get married young and start birthing children. Rebellious girls (those who questioned some of the principles or who didn’t keep sweet), were married off so they could be ‘broken’ and start having children. Young girls with children were more likely to stay within the FLDS because they had nowhere else to go.

Rebecca’s sister, Elissa Wall, was told she had to marry her first cousin. She was only 13. She begged and pleaded to be given a few more years to marry. Rebecca was successful at getting Elissa a little more time but eventually Rulon agreed to let Elissa’s father place her in marriage. This led to years of physical and sexual abuse of Elissa. When she complained, she was told to go home and submit to her priesthood head (her husband). (note: Elissa Wall has written a book about her experiences “Stolen Innocence”)

Eventually Rulon died and his followers were in shock. They were told he would be the last prophet. Thousands of followers came to his funeral. They believed, like Jesus, that Rulon would arise from the dead. When he didn’t, it the wives were at fault for being too wicked. When Rulon died, Warren stepped in and said that Rulon has given him the title of Prophet. Warren then set strict rules in place, no music, no toys, no laughter and and no one could wear the color red, it signified evil. After initially promising that he would not force Rulon’s wives to marry him, Rulon’s younger wives started having ‘revelations’ that God wanted them to marry Warren. Rebecca started worrying that she would become another one of Warren’s many wives. Rebecca started a friendship with a young man named Ben. She eventually was caught kissing him and Warren gave her an ultimatum, she had to choose a suitable husband (i.e. Warren) or she would be damned for all eternity. Rebecca decided enough was enough and with Ben’s help, she left the community.

Life outside the FLDS was difficult. Having been told about how evil the Gentiles were , Rebecca was happy to find that others were willing to help her. She and Ben moved to Oregon where Rebecca’s brother, Cole, lived. They worked in various wait staff jobs and did their best to get their lives together. Rebecca eventually become pregnant and Cole kicked them out of his house for being dishonest about their relationship. Eventually, Ben and Rebecca married and had another child, Natalie, who had some congenital abnormalities. Much of Rebecca’s story, however, depicts how her life was impacted by the FLDS even after she left and her endless determination to see that Warren Jeffs paid for the pain and suffering he caused.

Although Rebecca left the FLDS, she was very aware of what was happening within the community. There were stories of her sisters being married off and boys being dropped off at the side of the road. Rebecca said she they aren’t really ‘lost’ boys, they are ‘abandoned’ boys. Soon Warren’s bad behavior caught up with him and he was being accused of many offenses by various states including Utah, Arizona and Texas. Warren then went on the run. His followers became even more devout as they now considered him a martyr. Rebecca contacted law enforcement in order to check on some of her family members that had gone missing. After a lot of investigation and communications with her contacts in the police department, some of her relatives were found in Texas at the “Yearning for Zion” ranch. The YFZ ranch was in Eldorado, Texas and ultimately became the beginning of the end for Warren. There was a phone call from “Sarah Jessop” to the State of Texas claiming she was being abused and pregnant. This was enough for the State to go into the YFZ and search for the victim. The State eventually had to enter the temple to search for Sarah. Although Sarah was never found, there was disturbing evidence about the abuses of the FLDS and specifically Warren Jeffs.

Warren was eventually located and arrested. He was captured in, of all things, a Red Escalade. Law enforcement needed someone who knew the FLDS, knew the terminology and the people and someone who could decipher all the records that were found in the YFZ temple. For the trial, the State needed to get the truth about the FLDS and most specifically about Warren Jeffs, who had harmed so many families.

Rebecca stepped up to the challenge. She sacrificed time with her family and her jobs in order to see that Warren paid for his gross transgressions. There were several months of trials in several states. Rebecca was called to testify in many of the cases. The most significant case was the YFZ case in Texas and Rebecca was key in helping the legal system and jurors understand exactly what was happening within the FLDS. When Rebecca testified against Warren, she wore red. The color that was forbidden by the false prophet was now her signature color and personal statement. Warren was found guilty and is in jail for the remainder of his life. Rebecca remains an advocate for people seeking to leave the FLDS and remains a voice for the previously voiceless.

This book was excellent and I highly recommend that it be a part of everyone’s library, especially anyone interested in polygamy or human trafficking. Rebecca’s story is important and should be read and discussed. *Written by CPA Carol* 

Here's our post about Rebecca Musser on Dateline CLICK HERE

Have you read a good book you'd like to write about? If so, send us an email!
I'd like to see "Prophet's Prey" by Sam Brower, "Church of Lies" by Flora Jessop, "It's not about the Sex, my ass" any listed on the right of the blog, or any others! I know we have one coming in on "Plygs", so that's taken care of.  Thanks!
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24 Eylül 2013 Salı

Review "Sister Wives" "Tell All" s04e11

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Tamron Hall pledged viewers hard hitting questions and a behind the scenes look at the Browns. Hard hitting? More like nerf ball and pillow fights. Made the behind the scene posts at SWB look smokin' hot! First question up was about getting the McMansions. Promptly for me the volume drifted down and I got fixated on things like the fact Meri has had her tooth fixed or how many baby doll ruffle tops do they own all together. You know the hard hitting stuff. Meri, Tamron's fav, jump started next season's storyline by saying jealousy could be the problem in paradise. She also informs us that Mariah is going out of state for college. Guess that big issue wasn't really an issue after all since this was obviously taped long ago.
                                                                                         
The group is still chewing the cud
of covetousness when BAM! Out of nowhere, Robyn gives me a little gem. Make this gem#3. I bet in 6 months we never never see this happen again. Bored with her cud chewing, she decides NOW would be a good time to get that green goo out of her eyes. Yes! We live for this! This wasn't so boring after all! She's a picking that green goo out of her eye, rollin' it
                                                                  

around in her fingers as she looks intently on her new find, then the best part..FLICKS it away. Why it was sheer genius of a good 4 seconds! I sure hope it didn't land on Kody. No wonder he didn't comfort her when she was trying to muster up those fakey tears over her loss of purr-ity for the umpteenth time! He didn't want that slimey stuff on his new jeans!
Give it UP Robyn, so you got some before you got married the first time. I can think of worse things you have done, oh like interrupt Kollene and make it about you.

She really is a scene stealer. When the talk turns to the UNLV panel discussion, she makes this brilliant declaration about those anti-polygamists. "They're not there to find answers, they are there to say you are wrong and your family needs to break apart." No, sweetie, they were there to inform the public of their stories. Not validate you or Janelle or invalidate you. Do these folks know what a panel discussion is? Even my kids were asking the same question.



How unfair it was that in the first few seconds of the show they flash a scene of a crowd/you hear "from the public criticism"/flash to Kollene saying SW hate each other/flash to Robyn's shocked face. Shame on them for using an abused young adult to rile up shock value.





The Brown teens looked great. They are some more shining examples of our future. Smart, classy, and very articulate. Shame they seem to be brought out for the sole purpose of having their parents' back on the issues.    
      

We have watched them grow. Spunky little Maddie was the quiet one this session. When asked if she was going into polygamy, Aspyn discussed studying her parents religion to decide what she believed, which was a wonderful moment of Fundamental Mormon clarity. So, for the young adults, a little childhood reminder: "You’re off to great places, today is your day!" "You're mountain is waiting, so get on your way!" - Dr. Seuss

 
I've mellowed a tad toward Meri upon hearing her praise from Kollene. She seemed to be the go-to lady for our interviewer, and did a fairly good job. Meri wins the best makeup and hair award from SWB. Baby issue? No I'm not going there. Not feeling like beating a dead horse today. What's the holdup? Everett McGill said it best. 'Cause you know,"It's a fool that looks for logic in the chambers of a human heart."



 Janelle looked great. But she is reminding me more and more of a robotic mentality. Validate..Invalidate..Monogamy ..Polygamy..I wouldn't be surprised if she started moving like the robot from "Lost in Space" shouting "Danger Will Robertson!" Janelle always appears very nice. I think she's in love with the man and somehow has a way of compartmentalizing the crazy that goes with living in "the lifestyle." We thinks she looks great and enjoy watching her weight loss transformation. For that, we tip our hat to Janelle. 

Christine drank the grape kool-aid long ago and it's showing, sweetheart. Curiosity is a sign of intelligence, but to Christine that seems to make Mykelti a wild child. Do you think the voices she hears inside her head are fearing there's something out there, out there that just might be normal and fulfilling?
Christine is still hopped up at Aunt Kristyn during the "Tell All." Real reason you ask? Well, the Browns are living illegally. They want polygamy decriminalized. Kristyn wants to stop polygamy from becoming legal. But you won't hear the Browns say the facts. They simply are on opposite sides. This is not a personal attack. Not on Kristyn Decker's side, anyway.


 Kody. What do I have to say about Kody? I'll just let him speak for himself.


Twisted Sister saw Kody in a different light.


                                                                                          



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16 Eylül 2013 Pazartesi

"My 5 Wives" Spoilers, Gossip etc. with Video 2 Sister Wives 5!

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Discussion Area 2 for "My 5 Wives" 
Did you enjoy these Sister Wives?

The Latest on the Williams family.



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15 Eylül 2013 Pazar

My 5 Wives Special; Spoilers, Gossip etc.

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Meet the Williams, a progressive polygamist family who believe in love and commitment rather than religion. Despite ongoing hardships within their community, this modern family presents a fresh and honest look at a very controversial lifestyle.

If you missed our previous report full of pics on the Williams family 
Click Here:   SWB My 5 Wives
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Short Synopsis of what we know about Brady Williams and family:


BRADY WILLIAMS: Brady was born into the Mormon Church, but until age 16, he had never heard of polygamy. At that time, his parents converted to a faith that embraced the lifestyle. Until the age of 34, he grew as a church leader before he and his family decided to break away. Currently, Brady works as a project manager at his brother’s construction business while also pursuing a degree in philosophy at the local college.

PAULIE (1st Wife): Paulie and Brady have been married for 21 years and have six children, ranging in ages from 20 to nine years old. She was raised in a polygamist family and expected Brady to have additional wives, but she is also proud of her oldest daughter, who is recently married and plans a monogamous lifestyle. Paulie works as a dental hygienist.

ROBYN (2nd Wife): Robyn and Brady have been married for 20 years and have five children, ranging in ages from 19 to nine years old. Married about nine months after Paulie, Robyn also grew up in a polygamous home and expected to be a plural wife. Dubbed by the family as the “creative” wife, Robyn has taken a few art classes and loves making handmade gifts for her large family.

ROSEMARY (3rd Wife): Rosemary and Brady have been married for 18 years and have four children, ranging in ages from 17 to 11 years old. Rosemary used to work for the family construction business but stopped after winning a scholarship at the local college. She is studying for her teaching degree in music and biology and is particularly passionate about composing.

NONIE (4th Wife): Nonie and Brady have been married for 15 years and have five children, ranging in ages from 14 to four years old. Nonie was living in Montana when she first met Brady, and the two had a brief long-distance courtship before they got engaged. She currently handles the administrative side of the family’s construction business and is the only wife that works with Brady on a steady basis.

RHONDA (5th Wife): Rhonda and Brady have been married for 12 years and have four kids, ranging in ages from 13 to two years old. Rhonda, who is Robyn’s cousin, loves to work outside the home and is now a medical assistant. Despite their immediate bond, she confesses it still took eight years before she really felt like she belonged in the family. While Rhonda says there are downsides to polygamy, she loves that her kids always have other mothers around that love them.

Names the first-born son from each wife Brady.

Like the Browns, the Williams family are hoping that putting themselves on TV will make the public more accepting of polygamy.
"Sure, it’s scary," Brady said. "But it’s important to stand up for what’s right. And it’s right to allow consenting adults who are well-adjusted and not coerced to be able to share their lives and raise their children in a stable and loving environment."

They don't want their kids to live in fear...etc.

Ok, we've heard all that before. Here's to hoping they are more honest and easy to like!

Here's an interesting quote from an article from 1997:

Polygamy remains a felony in Utah, but it is no longer prosecuted, said Eric A. Ludlow, the Washington County Attorney, in southern Utah where a number of plural families live. Polygamists, he said, get around bigamy statutes by legally marrying only one wife; the others are recognized by religious leaders, or simply by the individuals themselves. ''They go under the table, and we don't track it,'' Mr. Ludlow said. ''It's a consensual relationship between adults.''

Brady Williams was also interviewed in the article. Here's his piece, with only 3 wives then.

When Brady Williams, 27, a fundamentalist Mormon, designed a home south of Salt Lake City for his three wives, each 23, he took the separate-but-equal principle a step further than the Bakers did. The house is divided into three 1,900-square-foot apartments. Each wife has her own entrance, her own floor plan and her own furnishings. Mr. Williams, a framing contractor, bought three furnaces, three television sets and three refrigerators.
''It does get expensive,'' he said. The only space the women share is a utility room for laundry and a family room. Mr. Williams keeps a few shirts in each apartment, and he rotates his meals and nights between wives, but the entire family eats together on Sunday. In a considerate gesture he designed the house so that no master bedroom is directly above, below or next to any other master bedroom.
''I believe the girls should have their own identity and place and not be mindless zombies,'' he said, ''but want to work together at times, like when they're canning fruit. I have really good wives. It works out.''

(Source of quotes: http://www.nytimes.com/1997/12/11/garden/a-house-10-wives-polygamy-in-suburbia.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm)

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Ed Kociela - Author of "Plygs" on "Polygamy USA" Dixie State Discussion on Polygamy - and Video

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**Ed is answering all questions posted tonight!!!

Today is a great day to tie in a post about "Polygamy USA" s01e06 "The New Polygamists"

Ed Kociela - Author of "Plygs" was on the show Polygamy USA after going to the discussion at Dixie State University in St. George, Utah. "Polygamist Culture and Alternative Religious Traditions" were discussed at the forum. Here's a link  Dixie Today

Remember in Polygamy USA when Marleen Barlow aka Thomson, was driving to the discussion telling us how she wanted to tell her story, and how they feared "her whole family ripped apart?" The Browns had a similar storyline...well, one good reason to watch "What Love is This" below... Ed Kociela and Doris Hanson discuss if there is a reason for fear, and why the TV stars always tell us about it....

In short, the Centennial Park ladies go to "tell the truth" about their lives in polygamy. Sorta like the Browns tonight. 

Marleen asks the crowd if they associate polygamy with Warren Jeffs or some type of abuse...I don't have a pic but UP goes Ed's hand.  Ed was the long haired cool looking guy in the audience that the camera kept going back to in the episode...and next to him is his lovely wife Cara, whom also is a poster here at SWB. The camera liked the couple and kept going back to them during the show.
 
Author Ed Kociela Questions and wife Cara observes

 Audience questions leads to Ed's "We have heard there are misconceptions but we're not told which ones they are." "We are told there is a difference between the CPark group and the FLDS." 
"What are you, where are you, and where do you stand?" Ed questions the ladies.
 
CPAC members Polly, Marlyne Hammon, Priscilla, and Maureen Thomson (Barlow)answer

Priscilla responds: "CPark people have never been a part of the FLDS.  The organized after we were out in CP already.""To say that we are an offshoot of the FLDS just isn't true and one of those misconceptions." 

Marlyne responds, "There's laws to take care of that today...it happens in monogomy...it's not polygamy that creates these type of people, it's people that created this type of people." 
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I contacted Ed and asked him to write a little piece about the filming. We got lucky and he did. We're lucky enough to get 2 behind the scenes views of televised debates with polygamists. BIG thanks to Ed for writing this piece and overall helping me this week, and to his wife Cara, who also has been a great support and helps me when I have blonde moments and keeps me going--- THANKS GUYS!!!
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FROM ED:I spent a lot of years in the media as a reporter, columnist, editor in the print field and commentator in broadcast. My blood would boil as I would hear people spit out epithets about “The Media” and its failures.
I left my last job in the newspaper business as a local news editor/columnist for one of the newspapers in the Gannett chain two years ago to write the book ‘plygs’ (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008NRZT1M), a journalistic novel about life within a polygamous community located on the Utah-Arizona state line. My wife, Cara, and I moved to the tip of Baja California, Mexico to remove ourselves from the day-to-day lifestyle and         pressures of life in the southern Utah to allow me the comfort and distance to string together what I hope were some coherent words.
From afar, we observed the “Sister Wives” phenomena and, since our return, as we work PR and promotions for the book, “My Three Wives” and the latest entry into the world of polygamy TV, National Geographic’s “Polygamy, USA.”
After examining these shows, I have to jump the fence and agree that, well, “The Media” has let us down. You see, polygamy as practiced in the real world by Mormon fundamentalists is nothing like what is portrayed in these shows.
It is dark, perverse, criminal. And, it is eliciting support among a group of civil libertarians who argue that the government has no right to peak behind our bedroom curtains. The sad truth, however, is that the issue of polygamy is much more complex, that while individual freedoms should be guaranteed for all, they should not come at the expense of little girls who are sexually abused when forced into marriage with much older men; that it should not come at the expense of women who are coerced into a life of servitude to ensure their eternal salvation; that it should not come at the expense of young boys who are forced out of school and into the shops, work crews, and factories of the church-owned businesses; that it should not come at the expense of the taxpaying public who forks over nearly $14,000 a month in welfare benefits as the people of the community participate in the practice of “bleeding the beast,” which in simpler terms is defrauding the government to obtain money, food stamps, health care, and other government benefits that kick in the moment they write “father unknown” on their child’s birth certificate.
You won’t see that on “Sister Wives,” you won’t see that on “My Three Wives,” you won’t see that on “Polygamy, USA.” Instead, you will see a sanitized polygamous lifestyle that has little in common, other than plural marriage, with the overwhelming majority of polygamists in this country.
“Polygamy USA” takes us inside of the tiny community of Centennial Park, Ariz., where about 1,500 people who live three miles from the fundamentalist Mormons who follow Warren Jeffs, the self-proclaimed prophet of the FLDS church who is serving a sentence of life plus 20 years in a Texas prison after he was convicted of sexually assaulting two young girls—one 12, the other 14—who he took as “spiritual wives.” A dozen other men were also charged after an investigation revealed that 12 girls, between the ages of 12 and 15, had been given in “spiritual married” to much older men and that seven of them had one or more children.
The Centennial Park group, which is known as “The Work of Jesus Christ” and “The Second Ward” claims no ties to Jeffs and the FLDS after a nasty break in the 1980s over leadership, something they proclaimed loudly when we went to Dixie State University in St. George, Utah recently to listen to a group of women from the community speak.
Although we had heard about “Polygamy, USA,” we didn’t know that the National Geographic crew would be present that day, filming the women for a segment of the show. And, when I asked a question of the women, I didn’t have a clue whether it would make the show’s final cut.
I was more surprised with how the responses to my question that day were edited and was even more surprised when a spiel by one of the women about how she explained to her children, who came to her after learning of a raid on the Texas FLDS compound, that the police took all the children away because they had “more than one mommy” when the reality was that the police raided the FLDS compound because of reported sexual offenses against children.
I am concerned because these shows do little to expose the complexities of polygamy, the dark side of it, at a time when there is a serious movement to have Utah’s anti-polygamy laws overturned. We already have an attorney general who has stated that he will follow his predecessor’s policy of not prosecuting polygamy violations, we have the Kody Brown (“Sister Wives”) family suing to overturn the state’s polygamy laws, and we have some traction among a small group of people who are well-intentioned in their belief in civil liberties, but are woefully uninformed when it comes to the abuses of polygamy.
There are those who support legalization or, at least, decriminalization. However, the danger is that either step would eliminate all oversight and make the crimes against children easier to commit and closet from the public eye. Legalization or decriminalization would legitimize a culture built upon perversion and fraud. Legalization or decriminalization would continue the coercion of women into servitude under the guise of religion, depriving them of their basic human rights.
But, you won’t get that by watching “Sister Wives,” “My Three Wives,” or “Polygamy, USA.”  Damn media!

**If you haven't already, read the new book by Ed, "plygs" a journalistic novel based on historical facts that is riveting. Many have been talking about it here the past few days. We will be reviewing the book soon!

**This is another must see. Doris and Ed have such a great discussion on many facets of polygamy including the politics of, The Brown family, Polygamy USA, should polygamy be legal, well, you've got to watch it for yourself! Great show.  

Polygamy: What Love Is This? with author Ed Kociela (2 May 2013)



Author Ed Kociela has a knack for taking his readers behind closed doors. He has taken readers into the home of a family victimized by the nuclear fallout of the Cold War Era nuclear blasts at the Nevada Test Site in "Downwinders...the play," opened the doors to the frightening secrets locked away within a fundamentalist Mormon polygamous cult in "plygs," and now walks you backstage to hang out with some of the biggest stars in rock 'n' roll history in "It Rocked! (Recollections of a reclusive rock critic)." The book includes intimate looks at such musical giants as George Harrison, Mick Jagger, Bruce Springsteen, Tom Petty, The Beach Boys, Peter Frampton, KISS, Foreigner, Journey, BB King, Frank Zappa, Willie Nelson, Carlos Santana, Dick Clark, and many others who he interviewed, worked with, and got to know as a rock critic for the Los Angeles Herald-Examiner and music industry publicist.

"Plygs" is the culmination of his 16-year career as a newspaper reporter, columnist, and city editor for The Spectrum, a Gannett newspaper located in St. George, Utah, which is located about 45 minutes from the community along the Utah-Arizona state line upon which his novel is based.

 "Downwinders," was one of only three presented for a series of readings by the Utah Shakespeare Festival's "New American Playwright Series" in 2005. Kociela has also written two screenplays.

He is an acclaimed writer whose work has bridged many aspects of the media world. As a newspaperman, he won numerous awards from the Associated Press and Society of Professional Journalists. He now works as a freelance writer and weekly columnist for STGnews, an online news outlet. His career includes newspaper, magazine, and broadcast experience as a sportswriter, rock critic, news reporter, columnist, blogger, and essayist. Over the years, his work has been featured in myriad publications ranging from the Los Angeles Times and Los Angeles Herald-Examiner to US magazine and GOAL!, the magazine of the National Hockey League.

(Source: Ed Kociela, Cara Curfew-Kociela, PolygamyUSA s01e06, Polygamy: What Love Is This? with author Ed Kociela (2 May 2013))
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